In these stressful days of quarantine, Pastor Amy VanValkenburg is a calming joy to listen to. The pastor of Joyful Spirit Deer Creek/Wadena in Wadena, Minnesota, population 4,088, she is also an ESL teacher, English teacher, women's studies major, mother of three, and farm-girl. Our conversation touches on the joys and challenges of rural living, how to be an activist in a small town, respecting those who are different from you, and bivocational life. ALSO get a special extra question at the end: why did Katy and Malachi decide to do this podcast?! Tune in!