Hal Herring is an award-winning and legendary outdoors journalist and the host of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers' Podcast & Blast. In this joint podcast with Mark Norquist of Modern Carnivore, Tony, Hal, and Mark discuss the transcendent allure of hunting, climbing trees to cage pinecones, Thomas Aquinas, being on the same team as cats, carnivorism, the apocalypse, and much more.

You can find Hal at https://www.halherring.com or by searching BHA Podcast and Blast. You can find Mark at https://modcarn.com and on the Modern Carnivore Podcast.