Tony talks with long-time wildfire fighter and smokejumper, Timo Rova, about Finns and Swedes, the mystical Lutherans called Laestadians, the difference between smoke chasing and smoke jumping, parachuting into a wildfire, grizzly bears in camp, why it's a mistake to see fire as the enemy, how North America is a fire-dependent ecosystem, and Timo's ministry of working with fire.

Find Timo on Instagram at @rovatimo.

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