Carl and Richard talk to Rey Bango about the state of JavaScript, IE, tablets, Windows 8. Rey talks about the ubiquity of jQuery and how other libraries could have been as dominant, but for whatever reason are not. The conversation also digs into the movement against plug-ins, and whether or not plug-in free is really practical. Rey also discusses the challenges of anti-IE web sites, and how you can change your user agent to discover that many webKit only sites work just fine in IE10.