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We chop up the legal battle between Ovrkast. and OutKast after the latter sued for the former for trademark infringement, unfair competition and breach of contract, arguing Ovrkast.’s name bears too much similarity to OutKast.
With AI on the rise, we talk about what this means for rap, the people advocating for it and the implications of its use. Then, we recap the times we had seeing Jay-Z live in London, reminisce about beefs squashed that made us happy, discuss what we’ve been listening to, and more.
0:00 Intro
3:38 Ovrkast. Vs OutKast
20:32 AI in hip-hop
50:32 Iceman vs The Fall Off + new music corner
1:05:12 Seeing Jay-Z live in London
1:15:13 Squashed beefs that made us happy
What we've been listening to:
Peter
Children of Zeus - As The World Burns...
Kenyon Dixon - EGO RUINS EVERYTHING
Ransom - The Price of Clarity
Rome Streetz - Sock It 2 My Pocket
Moe
The Game - The Documentary III
Rapsody - God Gotta Afro & Gold Hoops
AZ Chike - No Rest for The Wicked
Ransom - The Price of Clarity
Nipsey Hussle - Prolific
Yemi
Erykah Badu & The Alchemist - Before The World Blows
Lancey Foux - THE TIME OF OUR LIVES
Ransom - The Price of Clarity
Rapsody - God Gotta Afro & Gold Hoops
Nemzzz - LOCKED IN
Denzel Curry & Kenny Beats - ii
Wiki - Ancient History
SHAYK - FORWARD
Tierra Whack - WHACK’S MUSEUM
Bawo - Surf's Up
Music: Drake - Red Button (prod. Ovrkast.) (Instrumental)
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We’re back after some time away! After going to the first Roots Picnic, we recap the time we had, the artists we saw and our overall impressions of the festival. That somehow leads into a HEATED debate about Craig David’s greatness, the BRIT Awards, J Hus and more.
00:00 Who’s going to Jay-Z’s London concert?
03:55 The Roots Picnic
22:35 HEATED Craig David debate
50:21 Outro
Music: The Roots - Respond/React (Instrumental)
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We’re joined by Blue Lab Beats, the London-based duo that merges jazz, rap and electronica for a breezy, deep and extremely soulful brand of music. Made up of NK-OK and David Mrkapor, they're celebrating 10 years as a duo, a run which includes 5 albums, a Grammy Award and 5 MOBO nominations. Their brand of music has seen them collaborate with everyone from Kofi Stone and Kojey Radical to Tiana Major9 and Anjelique Kidjo, and their new album ‘The Blue Lab Beats Show’ is out now, which serves as a celebration of their incredible 10-year milestone.
They reveal their story, from meeting as teenagers at an arts college and their new album to their historic Grammy win, and they share gems about the intimate relationship between rap and jazz. There are stories about Black Thought, Herbie Hancock, Roy Ayers, Patrice Rushen and more!
15:07 Blue Lab Beats’ favourite rappers ever
22:39 Challenges and benefits of being a jazz band
28:40 Blue Lab Beats’ beginnings
43:28 The concept of Blue Lab Beats’ new album
55:22 Separating business from creativity
59:24 Blue Lab Beats on winning a Grammy
1:07:32 Performing live & staying creative
1:29:14 Blue Lab Beats’ Black Thought story
1:35:02 Blue Lab Beats’ Roy Ayers story
1:36:54 Dream collaborations
1:40:01 Which part of London has the best rappers?
1:44:29 Essential jazz rap songs/albums
1:48:08 Outro
Music: Blue Lab Beats - North London Pace
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We’re joined by UK legend Guvna B! He's an award-winning rapper, author and broadcaster who places his life and faith at the forefront of his music, which spans rap, jazz and gospel-inspired soul. He came up as a rapper around the same time the UK scene was moving towards electropop and carved out a unique lane for artists putting intention and vulnerability into his music. His stark analyses of everything from structural racism and youth violence to addiction and grief has earned him collaborations with the likes of Wretch 32, D Double E and his cousin, the actress and writer Michaela Coel, as well as a few MOBO Awards.
Guvna shares his journey from releasing his first lbum at the age of 17 to freshly dropping his 10th studio album, ‘This Bed I Made,’ getting personal about his life including bouts with addiction, getting divorced, being a single father, how the UK scene views him, the trials and tribulations of being labelled a Christian rapper, who he rates in the scene and much more!
12:45 Guvna B's favourite rappers
34:00 What Guvna B represents for UK music
49:33 Guvna B's journey and catalogue
1:02:44 Guvna B's creative process
1:05:29 Guvna B's new album 'This Bed I Made'
1:24:49 Album association
Music: Guvna B - Rest My Head
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This week, we react to one of the most anticipated rap albums of the decade: Drake’s ‘Iceman.’ On top of releasing this long awaited album, Drizzy two further surprise albums in 'HABIBTI' and 'Mid Of Honour' but we're sticking with a review of 'Iceman.'
We share our initial thoughts, how our relationships with Drake have changed, our expectations and whether the album succeeded or fell short.
Music: Drake - Make Them Pay
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We're joined by one of the most promising artists in UK rap: Tay Jordan. Representing Norwood, South London, Tay is one of the flyest rappers in the game, boasting G-Funk-inspired production and smooth stories of thugging it out, hustling, and the hardships of the hustle, giving his music a local London feel.
He’s part of the new wave of rappers breathing new life into the scene with their unique approaches to music and bars, and he’s three projects deep, having just dropped his latest, 'Last Run.'
We dig deep into Tay's musical journey, including his father being a producer, his first raps, his new project, his sound, his favourite rappers and more!
2:29 Icebreaker
7:49 Tay’s favourite rappers ever
25:58 Tay’s early music journey
43:50 Tay’s early rap career
49:51 Tay’s new project ‘Last Run’
1:09:03 Tay on gaining attention in the scene
1:20:50 Tay on making his own beats
1:22:14 Tay’s label situation & The Player’s Club
1:29:17 Tay’s definition of success
1:33:04 Tay chooses which part of London has the best rappers
1:39:43 Three essential Tay Jordan songs
Music: Tay Jordan - Penny Up
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Following the release of Central Cee and J His’ recent collab ‘Slaughter,’ we talk about Hus in depth, discussing his recent creative direction, where he’s going next and the desire to hear a different side of the East London legend.
Then, we take it in turns to name the rapper that’s appeared on the most classic hip-hop albums ever, before detouring to a chat about whether Drake has a classic. Later, we share our favourite subliminal in rap history, from the likes of Nas, Biggie and more. We close by paying tribute to the late, great Dot Rotten, the London MC and producer who sadly passed away in March 2026.
0:00 Where does J Hus go next?
24:00 Which rapper has been on the most classic albums?
30:26 Does Drake have a classic album?
46:15 Our favourite rap subliminals
1:06:23 RIP Dot Rotten
Music: Central Cee & J Hus - Slaughter
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This week, we’re joined by ICXN aka Ibrahim Kamara, a rapper, singer, entrepreneur and businessman. He started making music as a pre-teen before shifting his focus to business and co-founding GUAP, one of the UK’s most prominent Black British magazines which has profiled Leon Thomas and Odeal among others, and has collaborated with everyone from Instagram to Adidas, and even got ICXN a slot in the Forbes ’30 Under 30’ list. He pivoted back to music in late 2024, releasing his solo project ‘Ibrahim’ in 2025.We dig into his life, career and position in the UK scene, growing up in Lewisham, making music with intention, how GUAP works, his favourite rappers ever and much more!Music: ICXN - So Different8:57 ICXN’s favourite rappers ever27:57 ICXN’s early journey with music42:17 ICXN’s shift to co-founding GUAP Mag51:16 the mechanics of running a magazine 1:02:02 the business of music1:07:14 ICXN’s return to music1:15:54 Creating ICXN’s debut project 'Ibrahim'1:28:30 ICXN’s goals1:36:59 ICXN’s creative process1:42:25 ICXN’s 2026 plans + dream collabsFollow ICXN:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/icxn/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@icxnffFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rhymesdimespod/Follow us on X: https://x.com/rhymesdimespodFollow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rhymesdimespod
We have not one but TWO guests this week: Quincy OG and Paul Stephan. Representing Thamesmead, South London, and the SMF collective they co-founded, Quincy and Paul are two talented MCs and personalities who navigate the game with charm, personality and weighty bars. Their music and cultural takes has had the whole scene buzzing and millions of fans flocking and they’re only getting more praise and plaudits as the days go by. For the keen eye, Quincy was one of our very first guests!
We dig into their history as friends, their relationship with Peter, how the SMF collective came about, Paul’s music with mellow grime producer Bexblu and Quincy’s pivot to hosting and comedy. In addition to HEATED debates about the UK rap scene, Baby Keem, whether there’s been a UK rap classic this decade, and much more!
Music: Paul Stephan & Wilfried - Talk My What
3:02 Icebreaker
12:07 Quincy and Paul’s top 5 favourite rappers
25:55 Paul and Quincy’s come up
45:00 SMF and Quincy’s pivot to comedy
59:02 Paul linking up with Bexblu and embracing soulful beats
1:11:12 Paul breaks down melody
1:18:17 The guys break down Chip vs Ambush
1:22:57 Paul and Quincy’s thoughts on the UK rap scene
1:36:51 Paul and Quincy’s dream collaborations
1:46:30 SMF’s essential songs
1:49:54 Quincy’s GENERATIONAL rap rant
1:55:23 Paul and Quincy which area of London has the best MCs
1:59:44 Outro
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This week, we're joined by DeeRiginal, one of the most unique artists coming out of the UK today with an original blend of grime, R&B and spoken word helping him carve a lane that is all his own.
He’s been active for over a decade and is only starting to hit his stride, having dropped two projects in 2025, 'London Borough of Bewm' and 'Bereavement Blues.'
He’s also part of itsleftfield, a collective of artists pushing lyrical and sonic boundaries, alongside the likes of Namesbliss, SAMSON and more.
We dig into DeeRiginal's journey with music, his fascination with his home city of London, his rapping style, dream collaborations, his favourite rappers ever and more!
Music: DeeRiginal - Balance & Symmetry
2:12 London geography
8:03 Icebreaker
16:19 DeeRiginal's favourite rappers ever
25:52 DeeRiginal's music, style and come up
55:34 DeeRiginal's approach to live shows and creative influences
1:04:55 What part of London does DeeRiginal think has the best rappers?
1:22:37 DeeRiginal's approach to his music videos
1:27:58 DeeRiginal's dreams for his career
1:30:35 Three essential DeeRiginal tracks
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