Imagine attending a corporate seminar and expecting the same round of speakers and boring talks but instead faced with drums and a whole lot of noise-making. This is Natalie Spiro’s approach to solving communication issues within teams - industries and businesses coming together through rhythm and music, especially drumming, to help co-workers, workers, and executives form a bond to help them get past things that they're struggling with. In this episode, Natalie joins Tanya Memme to share her journey of ups and rock bottoms - from her jewelry business to having a TED Talk about her unconventional methods. She also discusses the concept of shadow work - having both light and dark parts within oneself.

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