The Bachelor is one of the OG reality shows. It’s been on 20 seasons and includes multiple spinoffs. It’s also a trainwreck that is awful to watch but impossible to turn off.

Sarah Hatheway joins us to share her hatelove of the show as we discuss such important season 20 issues as “Is Ben the worst?” “Will Olivia ever get off the island?” and “Can we just watch the mini horse?”

We’re current through episode 8 on this podcast and we’ll probably do a little bonus episode when the show’s over because even though it’s the worst, we’re in.