For our first ever magic special we've got world-traveling magician Billy Kidd to help us talk about the new special from Derek DelGaudio, In and Of Itself, which is a magic show but also kinda not. It's on Hulu and definitely worth a watch. We talk about what parts worked for us and which landed like a ton of golden bricks. Plus magic news, the best magic movies, and more than a little talk about the differences between comedians and magicians. Check it out before it disappears!

Siegfried Faschbacher of Siegfried and Roy dies at 81

Alex recommended the book The Magician and the Cardsharp by Karl Johnson

Anothny recommended David Byrne's American Utopia

Alex mentioned Penn & Teller's beach trick:

Billy recommends the film The Great Buck Howard