In this third episode, Rich speaks with Michael about building his reputation as a trailblazer and leader in the career development field. He talks about continuing his education in both traditional and not-so-traditional ways, including seeking some of the leading thinkers in America to learn from them directly. Then he takes us on a journey, both personal and professional, to understand how he went from a learner to a teacher of thousands around the world. More important than all of that, however, is the chance to become a husband and father. He talks about the ends he would travel to be a good one.