Rich Villodas is the pastor of New Life Church in Queens, New York and author of the forthcoming book, The Deeply Formed Life: Five Transformative Values for a World Living on the Surface (Sept. 2020, Waterbrook). Rich reflects on the transformation he continues to experience through engaging his life story—the patterns, people, trauma, and scripts that have shaped his life. Rich and KJ discuss how our bodies tell us truths about God and ourselves, and the healing that is possible when we turn toward our bodies with attention and gentleness. Rich and KJ also explore the pain of church hurt and moving toward healing and community after experiencing harm.