Why is it so rare to hear people use the words 'love' and 'maths' in the same sentence? And why might teaching computational thinking be a key to reinvigorating students' love of maths? To find out we spoke to Professor Richard Buckland. Richard's research focuses on developing strong learning environments using non-mark based motivation, to support students to excel at school and university. Transcript available at: http://bit.ly/edspressobuckland.