In episode 6, Liz catches up with longtime friend and former Reebok NYC colleague Rick Prince, founder of United Endurance Sports Coaching Academy (UESCA). Rick shares his journey from junior national team cyclist and collegiate runner to personal trainer, corporate fitness director, and ultimately creator of a science-based education company for endurance coaches. Together they dig into how UESCA brings in top global experts to design its courses, why he thinks national governing bodies should probably get out of the coach education business, and what a truly professional coaching credential might include. They also talk youth sport, unpaid volunteer coaches, and how much we undervalue the people trusted with kids’ development.

Learn more about UESCA at uesca.com and check out Rick’s own podcast for more on endurance coaching and coach education.