On this special edition of the New Hampshire Journal podcast, Gov. Ron DeSantis recounts his COVID experience -- from the day he first heard about a new virus beginning to spread, to his current political battle with former President Donald Trump over COVID policy.

Once denounced as "Death-Santis" for his refusal to close beaches and aggressively reopen schools, DeSantis recounts why he made the decisions he did, what he learned about leading during a crisis and why his friends were more worried about his political future than he was.

Is Trump right that DeSantis  "shut down Florida. It was tight as a drum?" Did the Florida governor have "no doubt" about sending kids back to school in the fall of 2020?

It's all part of the conversation.

Hosted by NHJournal Managing Editor Michael Graham.