“If I hear another person on the Internet talking about composting ontologies without actually being in the work of composting, I’m gonna flip shit," says Michael Loots—educator, writer, gardener, partner and papa—in this episode of Kinward Podcast, as we affirm a basic truth: the map is not the territory.

The map is not the territory—and, maybe it's true that one of the ways we can compost the stories that aren’t working is to put them in the actual ground. Have an idea? Try it out in the garden. You’ll find out whether it’s a “right story” soon enough.

Michael and I, distant neighbors across the span of Turtle Island spin yarns in this episode investigating our commitments to our own growth and learning and territories, the holding of young people through change, and wise(r) responses to consequences. There's Lore here, and Law.

Loots says that one of the choices we—you, me, us, our neighbors, his students—are making now is a choice of whether to iterate in the “sand mandala” of cyberspace, or iterate in space, in place.

Which are you choosing?

Let's meet each other in the territory. Welcome.

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