Most people know General Mark Hertling as the incredibly articulate, direct, no nonsense CNN Military Analyst. But Mark and I bonded on Twitter over something different, our shared love of musical theater, yes that's right musicals. After I discovered our mutual passion, I knew I had to chat with him. On this episode Mark discussed the lack of leadership in our current administration, why he has been an outspoken critic of Trump's dangerous military policies (i.e.trans ban) and what happened when he called out Ivanka Trump on twitter. And if that doesn't pique your interest....(wait for it) Mark raps Hamilton on the podcast...you read that correctly...he RAPS and it is glorious.

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