What if “chemistry” isn’t the compass—and curiosity is?

In this heart-centered conversation, midlife dating & relationship coach Jonathon Aslay joins Jessie to unpack the myths we’re sold about romance, the power of emotional maturity, and how to rise into love with intention. They explore attachment styles, non-attachment, massive friendship as the foundation of partnership, and integrating spiritual practice (hello, holographic reality) with real-world dating.You’ll hear Jonathon’s candid story of identity collapse, grief, psychedelic-aided rebirth, and the simple daily “baby steps” that pulled him forward. Plus: his now-famous Dating Vows—a clear framework for early dating that filters for values, vision, lifestyle, and emotional availability.

In this episode

- Chemistry vs. compatibility: why sparks don’t predict success

- Values, vision, lifestyle, and emotional maturity as non-negotiables

- “Rising” (not falling) in love & practicing non-attachment in dating

- Building a massive friendship as the core of romance

- Curiosity as a relationship superpower

- Navigating anxious/avoidant patterns with awareness

- Spiritual tools IRL: reclaiming power, asking for help, listening to intuition

- The Dating Vows: exclusivity, monogamy, honesty, time-investment, and clarity of intent

- Baby steps through breakdown, grief, and reinvention

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