On this week's show we're chatting with David Wells. He's ex GCHQ and ASD but

these days he's a counterterrorism boffin with the Lowy Institute. He's

joining us to discuss the IS document leak. Depending on which story you read

its either the death of the organisation or it won't do anything at all to

disrupt it. We get David's thoughts on what this leak will actually for the

so-called Caliphate.

In this week's sponsor interview we're doing something a bit different..

following on from last week's interview with Re/Code's Arik Hesseldahl we're

chatting with Tenable's CFO, Steve Vintz.

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