Therese and Mike discuss: What would parish priest say scenario and what would Bishop say. What questions would Randy Engel ask? Why does the Bishop and parish priest want to silent others like Randy Engel? 

1. We discuss the Horse and Rider in the context of the 4 Great Passions Carmel identifies and teaches on.

2. The four 4 great passions are Fear, Sorrow, Hope and Joy. 

Therese discusses why clergy are silent and what benefit they gain by silencing voices.