Orgres are like onions—they have layers, and so does our guest today. From the outside, looking in, we could assume that Rivers Taylor only had dreams of being a musician growing up and how wrong we would be. He is primarily a musician and a songwriter who has the gift to create metaphors for sermons, but he is much more than that.

The former athlete turned musician who had a passion for becoming a politician tells us all. In our discussion, we hear of his athletic career, his pivot to music, creating Pslam 23, and why he isn't a politician yet.