Rob discusses his career path from product management into security architecture into the CISO role, and the path he travelled along the way. We talk about the pros and cons of contracting, about the importance of a shared plan, and a shared vision, his view on what a CISO is and what a CISO isn't, as well as networking via WhatsApp.

We also talked about his lockdown project - Procordr, and finally we talked about women in leadership, and knowing your privilege.