“And to your earlier point about complexity, most of those kinds of models and titles and bands and blah, blah, blah, are complicated solutions that don't serve well in complexity. And so my job as an org designer is to say, what is the lightest most elegant, most intuitive solution that equips us to navigate complexity rather than what is a complicated and over-engineered solution that doesn't actually do anything to cut through complexity, it's just an exercise that we have to go through.” -Rodney Evans

In this episode of Control the Room, I had the pleasure of speaking with Rodney Evans about her 20+ years as an adaptive organization designer and future of work consultant.  She shares how rebellion first lead to her interest in helping teams explore new ways of working together and self-managing systems.  Later, Rodney asks some great questions like: “what does it take to help teams thrive?  What are some good foundational agreements for teams?  And what does participatory change look like?”  We then discuss the criteria for filtering out bad clients to work with.  Listen in for inspiration on how to build the shared responsibility to help teams execute their own change.