In this episode of the Leanpub Podcast, Len Epp interviews Romano Roth, author of The Cybernetic Enterprise: How to Build a Future-Ready Organization. Roth, a leading thinker in cybernetic transformation, discusses how enterprises can evolve beyond the “fast team, slow enterprise” dilemma that hinders large organizations. He explains how principles of platform engineering, agile scaling, and DevOps integration can help companies become adaptable, resilient, and sustainable in an era of rapid change. The conversation also covers organizational design, the role of feedback loops in business systems, and how leaders can prepare their companies to thrive in a cybernetic future.

This interview was recorded on August 21, 2025.

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