Darlene McDonald is running to replace Mia Love in Utah's 4th Congressional District. She tells us how she came to Utah from Ohio and went from food stamps to a successful businesswoman. She's both the conservative ideal of the American Dream and proof of liberal arguments that social programs help people climb out of poverty. Plus, she's a fun guest!

We point out that Mormon doctrine says some pretty progressive things about the environment and ask why it doesn't come across in Utah's politics. Plus, Romney Republicans: who are they? Can Democrats win them over? Should they? 

Just a reminder to always ask for "extra olives" when ordering pizza at Papa Johns. Listen to the end to find out why...