What does it take to make audiences feel something?

Ronnie del Carmen — co-director of Inside Out and the artist behind the emotional opening of Up — joins Brian McDonald to talk about the courage it takes to create empathetic work.

They explore how vulnerability shapes storytelling, why authenticity hurts (and why it has to), and how the best stories reveal more truth about us than we expect.

It’s raw, deeply human, and a masterclass in emotional storytelling.

Let’s get started.