We thought that this week we'd throw in a bonus episode, recorded during our summer rhythms series at church, interviewing the brilliant Jonathan Dean.  We have just had our Central Leaders Conference, where we've encouraged our leaders to think about rest, taking a step back, and in this podcast we talk about Jon's time on Sabbatical, and the song which he wrote in response, and which we have been singing, called "Renovate my Heart". Enjoy!