In this episode, Bill Neff, Head of Marketing at YETI, breaks down how the legendary cooler company became a culture-defining outdoor brand without relying on massive media budgets. From his Under Armour “locker room” days to leading one of the world’s most beloved challenger brands, Bill shares the operating system behind YETI’s rise, which is one built on community intimacy, real relationships, and equipment designed to last forever.

And this year, YETI made The Rival 50, our index of the world’s top challenger brands redefining growth, a recognition that reflects the consistency, courage, and craft behind their approach.

One key takeaway: Roots before reach. Bill explains why YETI invests four times more in community than brand, how third-party advocacy beats first-party hype, and why focusing on the micro-cultures around hunting, fishing, culinary, and outdoor craft fuels more growth than broad awareness ever could. If you’re building a premium brand or trying to scale without outspending your category, this conversation is your blueprint.

Watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube ▶️: HERE

          📚 Chapters:

• (00:00:00) - Intro 🎙️
• 05:00 Challenger brand pick: Turtlebox  🏆
• 06:30 What YETI is today
• 09:00 Listening that guides expansion (cast iron) 📊
• 12:00 Depth via community
• 14:00 Under Armour lessons: “locker room talk”
• 16:30 Premium pricing & third-party advocacy  💵
• 20:00 Getting started with advocacy 🤝
• 23:00 People stories > product dumps
• 28:00 Community-first team structure (4x brand)
• 31:00 Mass brand without mass media
• 34:00 Wrap up

🖊️Mentioned in the show:

• ANA Global Day of Learning (Association of National Advertisers)
• Turtlebox, favorite challenger brand
• Under Armour, Bill’s previous work experience
• Sitka Gear, Bill’s previous work experience
• Duck Man (YETI campaign)
• Drake Magazine (endemic example)

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Bill Neff, Head of Marketing at YETI, in this episode

This episode was recorded at the ANA’s global day of learning. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter. 

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler. 

Find Bill on LinkedIn.

Say hi at [email protected]. We’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024