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Rest sounds simple—until you actually try to do it. In this episode, Carrissa sits down with John Hand and Greg Langman, co-founders of Lead From Transformation, to explore the challenge many leaders face when it comes to truly unplugging.

Through personal stories (including nervous breakdowns, raking beaches, and failed camping trips), they unpack the emotional and spiritual roadblocks to rest, the difference between numbing and recreating, and how shame, identity, and productivity culture keep us from stillness.

Whether you’re a beach raker, a doom scroller, or just someone feeling guilty for slowing down—this conversation will help you begin to name why slowing down feels so hard.

Tune in and start re creating your story around rest.