This week Rory & Jeff discussed a bunch of gallery shows currently on in London, and got into the rewards and the pitfalls of showing art to sell, getting trapped making art that’s popular, the delights of the secondary market, and the exquisite paintings of Sam McKinniss.

We also spoke about reverence and parody, monkey brains, country music, Frieze, and apologising to Stephen Friedman.

This episode originally aired as a livestream on our Instagram, @roryandjeff, where you can see the works we discussed and watch the livestream.

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