A life long artist, Rosaire Appel spent years in the dark room and as a writer. Even if asemic comics and art books were a later shift in her oeuvre she arrived in the formative years of comics abstraction and uncomics. Her works explore visual sound and music; the shifting sands of being in the world; and the tensions between lexicality and visuality. Host Allan Haverholm talked to her about a selection of her works during the 2020 pandemic.