Thai BL has been suffering some...performance issues lately, so we're diving into why these shows can't seem to keep it up. Ben and NiNi talk Last Twilight and The Sign with friends of the pod Aiden and Captain Hands.

Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/749926703983443968/roses-thorns-and-buds-a-last-twilight-and-the?source=share]

00:00:00 Welcome

00:01:15 Introduction

00:03:54 Last Twilight: Roses and Thorns

00:09:35 Last Twilight: Failed Expectations

00:15:54 Last Twilight: Ableism

00:22:02 Last Twilight: Buds

00:25:22 Last Twilight: Final Thoughts and Ratings

00:29:26 Intermezzo

00:32:43 The Sign: Roses

00:39:32 The Sign: Thorns

00:48:43 The Sign: Buds

00:56:03 The Sign: WTFery

01:04:24 The Sign: Final thoughts and Ratings

01:10:02 Outro