Freddie Sayers talks to New York Times columnist Ross Douthat about his new book The Decadent Society, the religious aspect of antiracism protests, Obama and Trump, and whether lockdowns are a symptom of — or cure for — the decadent West.

Hold on to your hats, we hit some big topics in this half hour! Hope you enjoy.

Freddie Sayers talks to New York Times columnist Ross Douthat about his new book The Decadent Society, the religious aspect of antiracism protests, Obama and Trump, and whether lockdowns are a symptom of — or cure for — the decadent West. Hold on to your hats, we hit some big topics in this half hour! Hope you enjoy.

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Ross Douthat: are the BLM protests a religious movement?

Ross Douthat: are the BLM protests a religious movement?