Ross Gay is the author of four books of poetry: Against Which; Bringing the Shovel Down; Be Holding, and Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude. In addition to his poetry, Ross has released three collections of essays—The Book of Delights (a New York Times bestseller), Inciting Joy, and his newest collection, The Book of (More) Delights.

This conversation, much like Ross’s work, is about joy, curiosity, belonging and caring for one another. It was, truly, one of my favorite conversations I’ve had in this space, and I’m thrilled to be able to share it.

This episode was audio produced by Katie McMurran. Music is by Madisen Ward.