Ross sat down with podcast host Frances at a community health centre after his visit with a wound care nurse. Ross lives with chronic illness and limited mobility. He shares his journey from feeling angry about the challenges he faces, to choosing to live positively and make friends with his health conditions. Ross reflects of his experiences of kindness in hospitals and community health centres over multiple surgeries and many years. He talks about the importance of patients not feeling judged for their health conditions or heath care choices.