Mandy discusses the importance of perspective during difficult times, like grapes on the vine the best wine is formed from rough soil. We too become more loving, caring, and wise through rough circumstances if we can allow ourselves to see the lesson within the struggle.



Host: Cameron Williams, @camthevoice

Guest: Mandy Schackmann, Guest Speaker from Glendale Church

Producers: Gabrielle Pisanchyn, Philip Pisanchyn and Cameron Williams

Artwork: Chenisang Tiow

Recording Date: July 1, 2020