Family and Children's Entertainers, The Podcast

Round Table #1


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With with Richard Pinner, Chris Frost and Gordon Drayson

In this roundtable discussion, two family and children’s entertainers, Chris Frost (also known as Frostie the Magician) and Richard Pinner, discuss with Gordon Drayson, the importance of their performing names and the challenges they face in different markets. Chris embraces his eccentricity and oddity, staying true to his unique brand, while Richard maintains a versatile approach with separate brands for different audiences. They all agree on the importance of entertaining both children and adults, recognising that engaging the adults can lead to bookings for other events.

They also discuss their approach to performing for children and transitioning to adult shows. They emphasize the need for a strong opening to grab the attention of adults during children’s shows. The speakers discuss the importance of creating magic that the audience doesn’t understand and involving the audience in the magic to create a strong reaction. They also explore the importance of building trust and likability with the audience.

The discussion then shifts to the role of social media in promoting oneself as a performer. The speakers highlight the need for separate online presence for their performing characters and personal accounts, emphasizing the challenges of maintaining a consistent and relevant social media presence. They also mention the importance of social proof for potential clients.

They also touch on the challenges of location, maintaining originality, and managing disruptive children during performances. They all share their approaches and techniques, such as using unique routines and improvising based on audience reactions.

Join Gordon as he talks with Richard Pinner and Chris Frost in FACE, The Podcast

Chapters

[00:00:00]: Introduction to Face the Podcast
[00:00:08]: Guests introduction
[00:00:36]: Naming characters and creating brands
[00:02:09]: The pros and cons of using a character name
[00:02:58]: Dressing and presenting as a character
[00:04:30]: Consistency in appearance through wigs
[00:04:49]: Managing multiple brands and marketplaces
[00:06:50]: Being true to oneself as a performer
[00:08:08]: Separating brands and using different names
[00:09:21]: Approaching different audiences with versatility
[00:12:23]: Introduction and Style of Performing
[00:12:49]: Grabbing the Attention of Parents
[00:13:19]: Performing for Different Audiences
[00:13:42]: Opening Trick and Engaging Cynical Children
[00:15:32]: Creating the Wow Moment and Magic
[00:16:36]: The Role of the Magician and Magic Happening
[00:17:02]: Different Approaches to Magic Performance
[00:18:24]: Addressing Skepticism and Interacting with Children
[00:19:08]: Involving Children in Magic Tricks
[00:21:34]: Transitioning from Kid Shows to Adult Shows
[00:22:20]: Building Trust and Expanding Performance Opportunities
[00:23:27]: Riskier lines in adult show
[00:24:43]: Difficulty in writing improv for vent routine
[00:26:11]: Getting bookings from accidental adult content
[00:27:21]: Different routines for different audiences
[00:29:34]: Importance of social media for social proof
[00:30:46]: Being open or careful with social media presence
[00:31:32]: Separating personal and professional social media accounts
[00:32:58]: The impact of political views in performances
[00:35:16]: Importance of relevant and consistent social media presence
[00:36:24]: The significance of regular posting on social media
[00:36:39]: Importance of social media
[00:37:54]: Instagram for corporate bookings
[00:39:14]: Social proof and building experience
[00:40:28]: Using snippets on social media for bookings
[00:41:43]: Transitioning from online fame to live gigs
[00:42:57]: Challenges of venue, budget, and audience
[00:43:50]: Licensing concepts and selling ideas
[00:45:33]: Offering creativity for sale to others
[00:46:23]: Brainstorming ideas for magic tricks
[00:47:09]: Working remotely in consultancy and location
[00:48:29]: Gigs and Material Choices
[00:49:44]: Magic Word and Branding
[00:51:12]: Recognizing Another Entertainer’s Material
[00:53:11]: Adapting Shows on the Spot
[00:55:38]: Impact Ratings and Routine Preferences
[00:56:16]: Preparing for Shows
[00:57:44]: Handling Disruptive Children
[01:00:36]: Addressing Distractions and Snacks
[01:00:43]: Idea for Managing Problem Children
[01:01:09]: The big red button idea
[01:01:50]: Suggestions for keeping the button on stage
[01:02:17]: Making the button more interactive
[01:04:01]: School rules vs home rules
[01:05:02]: Training the audience at holiday parks
[01:05:46]: Dealing with challenging schools
[01:06:41]: Reflecting on past performances and making improvements
[01:07:53]: Challenges with parking at venues
[01:10:02]: Different venues affecting behavior
[01:11:04]: Benefits of hosting parties at schools
[01:12:08]: Importance of booking the most important aspect first
[01:12:31]: Importance of geography when choosing a venue
[01:12:52]: Using an interactive map to find party venues
[01:14:03]: The future of children’s magic
[01:14:15]: Children’s entertainers and their significance
[01:14:48]: Avoiding comparison with other entertainers
[01:15:17]: Differentiating oneself as a children’s entertainer
[01:15:57]: Gaining wisdom through experience
[01:16:24]: The danger of looking at other entertainers’ prices
[01:18:15]: Contact information for Chris Frost
[01:18:45]: Contact information for Richard (Little Shop of Magic)

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Family and Children's Entertainers, The PodcastBy Gordon Drayson