Brett M. Judd MSW - The Business Therapist - talks with Ron Papke about his transformation and how learning to say "I Don't Care" was a turning point for him and hos life.

Ron now trains and coaches other who are struggleing to unlock the barriers that keep them trapped in a life spiraling out of control.  

Ron can be found at www.RPM150.com and his book Create Yourself is available there.

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