In discussing the Will Smith and Chris Rock incident at the Oscars, Rudy Bankston says, “success and celebrity do not negate one’s humanity.” In this episode of Black Oxygen Rudy and I cover a lot topics including the now infamous Oscars incident, the lessons that we can learn individually and locally regarding leadership and healing, leadership beyond wearing the mask of performance, and grief. There was so much packed in this conversation - it’s a deep one. Enjoy!

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