In this episode of Airing Your Dirty Laundry, Daphne Berry sits down with Australian superstar Ruel to unpack the making of his new era and deeply personal sophomore album.At just 23, Ruel reflects on growing up in the industry after starting his career at 13, the pressure to appear “mature” long before he felt it, and how he’s finally making music that feels unmistakably true to his own taste. He opens up about the intention, honesty, and vulnerability that shaped this record - particularly his shift toward writing earnest love songs for the very first time.From breaking down the 'cringe factor' of sincerity, to exploring soulmates, maternal love, studio chemistry, and the fear of rejection that comes with collaborating in LA, RUEL shares rare insight into the emotional and artistic growth behind the new album. He also talks about letting his guard down, working with a new circle of producers, and releasing his first-ever song he didn’t write - a gift from long-time collaborator John Ryan.Daphne and RUEL dive into the moments that shaped him: missing out on a regular adolescence, navigating adulthood in the public eye, and why being alone in Los Angeles feels like “hell on earth” compared to the easy peace of being home in Australia. RUEL also reflects on Destroyer, the album’s most personal and painful track, detailing a complex childhood responsibility he’d never spoken about.Created by Daphne BerryProduced by Daphne Berry and Imogen RennieCamera & Sound Crew: Jack ShepherdEditing: Daphne BerryMusic: ReviloIllustrations: Joe Neathway BrownLogo: Samuel BurchfieldFilmed on location at The Tumble Club, WaterlooThis episode of Airing Your Dirty Laundry was filmed on Gadigal Country. We would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people, the traditional custodians of this land and pay our respects to the Elders both past, present and emerging.Follow us!Instagram: @airingyourdirtylaundryTikTok: @AiringYourDirtyLaundry