This episode is part of a special series of four interviews with the winners of this year's Material Design Awards, exploring what goes into creating an award-winning app.

Ruff is a focused note-taking app that won this year's award for theming, building an expressive identity through the consistent application of color, typography, and shape. In the interview, Liam and developer/designer Bardi Golriz talk about what it's like to add new features without losing focus, and how Material Theming impacts the process of developing an app.

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