On the DSPN, Martin Devlin chats with rugby writer Gregor Paul about everything swirling around the All Blacks right now. They talk through that messy red-card situation for Ireland in Chicago, why refereeing common sense seems to come and go, and how different competitions end up with completely different interpretations. Then, the focus shifts to the All Blacks themselves, with the Scotland test fast-approaching. Marty and Gregor talk new combinations, who’s stepping up, who might get another run, and much more.

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