Episode 17 is a BestSellers CookBook special in which Natalie finally proves to Phil that she's not the only person in the world who reads cook books cover to cover, in the same way she reads fiction/non-fiction.

The brilliant Rukmini Iyer has perfected one roasting tin recipes: Minimal input for maximum taste return and much less washing up! Rukmini tells Phil & Natalie how she plots her recipe books out, like thriller writers do; how she also reads cook books cover to cover and she explains why scientifically, Coriander tastes like soap to some people.

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