No guest this week — just a 2-way with Max & Ralph/Andrew/Hett (whatever you call him). Lock in because we get PREACHY in this episode!

We chat about taking cookies from the cookie jar of motivation, how to get out of life slumps, motivation vs. discipline, and so much more. If you’re not a fan of the more ‘serious’ episode, we will be back next week with the comedy

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