In this episode of How the F** Did We Become Runners*, Robert and Ange dive headfirst into everyone’s favorite mid-run pastime: crippling anxiety. Robert puts on his Psychologist Hat™ (it’s probably sweat-wicking), while Ange admits that crowds make her want to disappear faster than her electrolytes on a long run.

Meanwhile, Robert’s convinced every pothole is plotting his demise and doesn’t trust the “supportive” roar of the crowd — because who needs encouragement when you can have intrusive thoughts?

With the Dublin Marathon looming like a finish line mirage, these two friends of 40 years are still figuring out how to outrun not just 26.2 miles, but also their own emotions. Tune in for anxiety, banter, and maybe a few coping mechanisms that don’t involve beer.