When I asked Matt if he would record a podcast with me, it was after receiving a text from him, when he was in the mountains, clearly loving the total experience, the mountain lake, the sun, the mountains rising around him. He sounded very joyful, therefore I anticipated our podcast about his sabbatical from teaching, much of it spent cycling up 15 of the Tour de France cols and following the tour itself in his camper van to be about just that.

But as he spoke, it became apparent that the time away from teaching, the time meeting other adventurers ‘There are only nice people at the top of a mountain’ has effected a shift within which has meant he cannot be in the education system in the same way as he was before. He is unable to ‘join in’ with the group karma around result driven teaching. He spoke about how he is is passionate about education being about developing the individual and allowing them the freedom to know who they are and live fully rather than emerge with a list of results that may or may not reflect them in the truest sense.