Russia-Ukraine two years in: The defining war of the 21st Century

Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine began two years ago. Hundreds of thousands have died and more will follow. What is the state of the conflict right now? How has Russia altered global stability, and is Western support for Ukraine wavering? Gavin Esler is joined by Michael Kimmage formerly of the US State Department, now a professor of history at the Catholic University of America and author of Collisions - The Origins of the War in Ukraine and the New Global Instability.

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• “Putin overestimated the capability of the Russian military.” – Michael Kimmage.

• “I think NATO, while interesting and important, is a bit of a red herring.” – Michael Kimmage

• “There's really no structure or set of powers that can iron this out.” – Michael Kimmage.

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Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production.

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