In the fourth episode of “Leading and Thriving in the Church,” Prince talks with Ruth Haley Barton, the founding president and CEO of the Transforming Center, whose mission is to strengthen the souls of pastors, spiritual leaders and the congregations and organizations they serve. Learn more about Ruth at her website, where you can find links to her books and podcast.

In this episode, Ruth and Prince discuss:

• the question of “how do people change, really?”
• building up trust in community
• spiritual practices to help leaders nourish their souls
• how leaders should use the Enneagram
• Sabbath as a formative discipline
• and more!

You can find show notes and the transcript for this episode at https://alban.org/2023/11/16/ruth-haley-barton-listen-for-the-voice-of-god

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