Chris was joined by CS2’s Crissy and Charlie Saunders to do a deep dive into Marketing Operations to support measurement of Demand Strategies and Programs. They discuss key requirements to set up a measurement framework to measure the effectiveness of demand programs including pipeline sources and how to think about funnel tracking. They also answer audience questions. 
If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.
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RV173 - Expert Session: Signal-Based Pipeline Architecture with Crissy Saunders and Charlie Saunders

Welcome to the new B2B Revenue Vitals podcast, formerly State of Demand Gen. On this podcast, you’ll learn how to build a high-growth company from Refine Labs' CEO, Chris Walker. From proving new revenue programs to identifying and scaling programs that work, to training your team to operate at scale, you will understand what it takes to create a predictable pipeline of revenue innovation that drives compounding gains. Through interviews, AMAs, and invite-only events, we give you a sneak peek into the data-backed insights we are executing for the fastest-growing SaaS companies in the world.

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Chris was joined by Peep Laja for an in-depth conversation on messaging. Dedicated to unraveling the significance of target customer insights, the discussion digs into the tangible impact that effective messaging and validation can have on demand generation strategies and sales velocity. This session is a deep dive into the processes and methodologies used in message testing and the resulting ability to sharpen go-to-market approaches.
The dialogue initially sets the stage with a high-level overview of the necessity of message testing, followed by a practical guide on conducting this qualitative research. Peep provides a compelling rationale on why messaging should be clear, relevant, compelling, and differentiated. The conversation moves on to discuss symptoms unique to companies that lack such feedback from their target demographics and how it can stealthily affect their business capabilities. Chris and Peep both stress that real-time customer insights are crucial and should be an ongoing activity to dynamically inform business strategies


If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.
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The next Expert Session, featuring Kyle Coleman will take place on June 6 at 12pm central. Register Here. 
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RV182 - Expert Session: Demand Creation that works requires Messaging Validation

In this week’s event, Chris discusses issues in the B2B tech sector, focusing on go-to-market bloat. He explains that both public and private SaaS companies are seeing slower growth and rising customer acquisition costs (CAC).
Chris highlights the need for B2B companies to reevaluate their sales and marketing spending due to a shift towards prioritizing profitable growth. He mentions that there are many trackable indicators of buyer interest that are not currently being monitored, which could improve the efficiency of go-to-market spending.


If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.
Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? Submit it here.
The next Expert Session, featuring Kyle Coleman will take place on June 6 at 12pm central. Register Here. 
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RV181 - Tackling Go-To-Market Bloat | Go To Market Live Episode 17

Chris joined Drew Smith on the Attribution Nation podcast to unravel the complexities of marketing attribution and strategy. The conversation sheds light on the benefits and pitfalls of attribution models within B2B marketing, and Chris articulates his evolving viewpoint on the subject, offering illuminating insights that challenge conventional thinking.
Chris shares his journey from the medical device industry to founding Refine Labs and now leading Passetto, highlighting the inefficacies he observed in traditional marketing roles and the transformative digital demand strategies he implemented. With an adept understanding of customer behavior and market dynamics, he makes a compelling case for a more nuanced, customer-centric approach to marketing metrics.


If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.
Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? Submit it here.
The next Expert Session, featuring Kyle Coleman will take place on June 6 at 12pm central. Register Here. 
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RV180 - Achieving Objective Attribution Measurement | Attribution Nation

Chris joined Justin Norris on RevOps FM to discuss new perspectives on B2B marketing and evolving go-to-market strategies. Chris introduced the idea of 'signals' in marketing analytics to track customer interest throughout the sales cycle. The episode covers differences between signal providers, aggregators, and analytics. Chris explains their roles and possible developments in signal tracking. He also points out flaws in the current go-to-market models and proposes a single, more effective approach for better financial performance.


Chris focused on how businesses should prioritize profitability and growth while cutting costs, especially given the current economic conditions. He walks through reassessing customer acquisition strategies and measuring value through financial soundness. 


If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.


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The next Expert Session, featuring Peep Laja will be on Thursday May 16 at 12pm central. Register here. 


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RV179 - Leveraging Signals to Improve Marketing Analytics | RevOps FM Podcast

In the latest episode of "Revenue Vitals," Chris talks through changes in B2B finance and the impact to GTM strategies. He outlines the importance of shifting from growth at all costs to a strategy that emphasizes sustainable, efficient growth.


Chris talks through the current landscape; SaaS companies aren't growing as fast as before while it’s becoming more expensive to get new customers. He highlights how businesses should reconsider where they're putting their money to come up with new strategies that fit with current market conditions.


If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.


Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? Submit it here.


The next Expert Session, featuring Peep Laja will be on Thursday May 16 at 12pm central. Register here. 


Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm



RV173 - Expert Session: Signal-Based Pipeline Architecture with Crissy Saunders and Charlie Saunders

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