Terrific cartoonist Ryan Claytor joins Jason this week to talk about several topics. One is his very intriguing new kickstarter project, which is a kind of fascinating collaboration between Ryan and his grandfather, the bringing of a work of poetry into comics form. Ryan also teaches comics and comic art at Michigan State University, and he and Jason talk for a while about the boundless creativity the students bring to their comics work.

It's a very interesting hour-long conversation we think you'll enjoy. If you did, please leave feedback on iTunes and subscribe!