In this episode, conceptual artist and contempoary art world megastar Ryan Gander chats with Carrie Scott and In this intimate conversation with contemporary art world megastar Ryan Gander, we skip the usual exhibition promotion to explore the deeper "why" behind artistic creation. Gander shares personal insights about making art accessible without being elitist and reflects on how art intersects with our perception of time and memory. Rather than explaining his work, he invites us into a philosophical discussion about attention spans in our distracted world, the value of challenging art versus easy entertainment, and how imagination might help us control our experience of time. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the mind of an artist grappling with existential questions that extend far beyond the gallery walls.

From Carrie: "Ryan Gander has a giant opening coming up at the Pola Museum in Japan and so we came to the studio today to talk to him about the show and everything he's got going on and guess what? We didn't talk about it at all and that's totally fine because there are hundreds of great interviews that Ryan has given that explain his practice and talk about his work because this man is a megastar in the contemporary art world. What we did today was kind of talk more personally about the point of art and why he does what he does, but also, like, what we're getting wrong. We got into, like, the deep big stuff that really bends my mind and,like, keeps me up at night and I think keeps him up at night and really got to the heart of why any of us do what we do. It was a great conversation and yet again, this is the third time I've got to interview him. I've walked away beinglike, 'Oh, that's the point. That's the point of all of this.' It's epic."

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