Ryan jumps on the podcast to discuss design, sobriety, and keeping busy in recovery. Ryan has his own style and motivations that help keep him sober. On top of being a full time tech designer, he has his own clothing apparel where the design is CLEN and top notch. Thanks Ryan for being on the show!

Check him out at clenapparel.com

You can see his designs on instagram as well instagram.com/clen_lifestyle_gear